One solution that would allow new players get into the endgame without rolling a guild is to create random 10 icc random 25 icc with greater rewards.
example made a random icc 10 with heroic rewards instead.
This will made the game more intressting and difficult. its easier to kill a boss with all people with gear around 5.8 at least its what the users of gearscore suggest or they will not use it.

Blizzaard already put some gear request for some instances, that could be done to the random icc raids also. How about killing icc bosses with random people. That will bring some use of the raid looking application that none uses.

I absolutely love this post because this is EXACTLY why I quit WoW, except it wasn’t gearscore, but not having achievements. Basically, I was a very well-geared priest but if you didn’t have the ICC-10/25 man achievement, people just laugh at you in-game and it’s just really sad. This is a prime example of what the community in WoW has come to and honestly, in my opinion, Cataclysm will not be the savior of WoW as everyone seems to think. It’s just going to be more content, more imbalance, and more of Blizzard’s typical BS to appease to a wider demographic. Sure, Cataclysm is going to fun and great, you’re going to do all the quests, experience all that it has to offer, but when you’re threw with all that and progress onto the raiding point, it’s really just going to reach the same dead end that you’re in now. WoW is designed to have this devastatingly repetitive cycle of extensive elitism that can largely be blamed on the community within WoW, except WoW’s mechanics allow for all these things to happen, so both the game and the players within it are to blame.

It’s quite sad really, a large portion of my friends have quit alongside me for the same reason and many more are quitting everyday. It’s really unfortunate, because if this wasn’t a problem and everyone had an equal opportunity to experience the raid content or just content in general that they are more than entitled to (by paying their subscription fee), than WoW might have retained maybe a little of its former glory.

Trust me, I know exactly the kind of frustration you’re going through, it can be quite infuriating sometimes. Quitting and leaving WoW behind without looking back is the greatest antidote to the poison that is WoW.

I guess you’re either underskilled or just a douche. 4k GS means you’re already cleared out Naxx 25 completely, in other words, equivalent to TOC entry spec. I’ve ran TOC 10 man with 4300 GS tanks and no-one had over 4500GS but we cleared 4/5 by the first try.

Icewatcher isn’t harder than Hodir (10 man regular) in gearwise as far as my healing experience with my former guildies. Plus, he have 5.1k ish gearscore which is way overshoot for both ToC and VoA. With 30% buff, in case ICC, 5.1k GS is equivalent to 6.6k GS in terms of HP and spell/attack power. If people can’t down ICC 10 with bunch of 5k ish GS, they will never be able to even after Cataclysm since it’s not the gear but their skill.

The fundamental problem is the game design. Blizzard dumbed down people by distributing tons of overpowered gears and deducing difficulties of raid encounters. The former obliterated the need of running low tier raids to remove any opportunity for new comers and alts to be attuned to their characters and basic raid mechanics while the latter transformed the game into a item farming fest which eventually led people like you to seek only ‘sure’ success on raid encounters rather than adventure.

Moreover, being rude on people doesn’t help the game community at all. You might be ok with your current in game friends but no-one would continue subscription which leads to sure failure on game experience for MMO genre. If the trashy community continues to Cataclysm, I’m sure WoW won’t have another expansion.

FIRST OF ALL! 4k gearscore? really? lets review what would happen in EVEN a guild run with 4k gearscore: Icewatcher (VoA10/25) will 1shot you (even his frozen orbs will kill you dramatically fast), Marrowgar’s bonestorm will kill you almost instantly! Even ToCr10/25 raids wont even let you in!

SECONDLY!: I hate gearscore myself, but what ive been learning is with a higher gearscore the chances are you have more raiding experience, that shows me that you know at least some fights in ICC or RS. You have to raid this type of content in order to get where your gearscore is now! so wtf is everyones issue with it? i put 20$ on it says blizzard will eventually push gearscore out of the picture like they have been trying to do for a while now and they will put in there own “gear point” system so that you will not need the addon as blizzard ALWAYS eventually just makes your addons built into WoW because of popular demand. So Ya’ll (including me) can hate it all you(we) want to… fact is……. its here to stay…. so why whine about it when you have no say in the matter. People who judge by GS trump the amount of people opposed… so do yourself a favor and get a box of kleenex and stfu about it… just cause you guys cant get a pug(or group in general?) doesnt mean you should be bitchin about it, quit if you suck… so the games not for you! GO PLAY SOMETHING ELSE!

Honestly! if you cant find a pug that will let you in? FIND A GUILD TO CARRY YOU AT LEAST! i just hate people that bitch about something when there “low” gs, but when they get higher gs? all of a sudden there hot shit and they dont bitch about the gs addon anymore. I have a lvl 80 DK, and lvl 80 Warrior (both dual spec tank/dps) with both gear sets…….. i never had the addon till about 2 months ago so i didnt even know my own gs,….. so i asked someone and they said that my tanking gs on DK was 6k and my warrior tanking spec was 5.8k… switched to dps on my DK and Warrior and was told that my gs on dps/DK was 6.1k and my dps/warrior was 6k… at this time i didnt know what that meants but i was told by the player that it was extremely good and that i was at least top 25 geared in my server…. so all in all……… STOP BITCHING AND JUST PLAY THE F*CKING GAME!!!! YOU MAY SUPRISE YOURSELF IF YOU CRY LESS!

Gosh, I’ve been playing this game since 2004, from closed beta test in Korea. I had to discontinue the subscription due to real life issues just like you though. It’s really sad this game ended up like this. I might try Cata a bit, but I don’t expect much improvement from this state since their main direction is: Carrot on Stick.

And that’s one reason that my GS has taken a hit, too. I’m using an i200 shield and libram, one of which is best in slot, and the other hasn’t seen a single upgrade drop in the time I’ve played the character.

i agree only partially. with some frost badge gear from daily/weekly/tora and the crafted/boe items one can easily get to 5600-5700 gs without ever setting foot into icc. On my server missing achievements is the bigger obstacle. I encountered that problem on my twinks. I got around it by waiting for “last minute” raids on tuesdays before the reset when everyone has a desperate need for healers/tanks.
Before gs there was already gear screening in the form of how many tier items one had equipped. Gs just expanded that to your whole gear.
I am not a hardcore raider/player. I work full time and raid 2 days/week with my main + dailies on my twinks 3-5 days /week. With a lot of auctionhouse usage that puts me at 8h raiding + 3-5 * 45mins (1-2 dailies +ah) = 10- 12h of wow a week.

On my server I’m within the top 5% of PvE hunters. Possibly less but I’m not the highest gearscore – purely because I have items that I’ve spreadsheeted worked out better. It’s only been in the last month when I was able to return to a better raiding schedule that I’ve slowly crept up. Why would I replace a set of 258boots for 264s when the stats aren’t suited for my spec? I even had a pug hunter making fun of me for being in a guild doing better content than him but having a lower GS (voa25, absolutely pwned the shit out of him on recount). In fact as a hunter its better to keep 2 pieces of t9 until you can swap to 4set sanc t10 purely because the set bonus is so good.

In the end – make your own pugs and set the rules. I run a lot of pugs on my alt and I don’t use any addons like GS or EG. Friends of friends, guildies and PuGs who’ve impressed me in other pugs. If i’ve never met them I spend 5mins on the armoury looking at their item choices and how they’ve gemmed/enchanted as 9 times out of 10 that will tell you more about their knowledge than a number will. If you want to make sure they know the content – ask for an achievement but accept a 10version of it as well.

Good luck finding something that works for you whether it be guild or pug.
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