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		<title>By: John A.</title>
		<link>http://www.professorbeej.com/2009/11/anti-edward-cullen-a-treatise.html/comment-page-1#comment-1742</link>
		<dc:creator>John A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real big question, however, is even though these girls/women love the bad boy, is it the book that catalyzes the unhealthy relationships or is it inborn. Does the book originate their mentality, or does it relate to it?

The way I figure it, it comes both ways. For those that are molded by something such as a fictional story so easily, then they are just going to drop the mentality for the next shiny bauble that comes along. For those that relate to the story, they would have committed themselves to dangerous lives with or without the book.

Poor authorship and unoriginality aside, the reason I can not stand Twilight isn&#039;t because of what it is, but what it has become. I absolutely HATE it when an intellectual property becomes popular by preying on weakness. This is exactly what has happened with Twilight. The two groups of people mentioned above have propelled mediocrity into fortune.

Granted, there are a few people that are fans for honest reasons. They actually enjoy the way the books are written, and instead of seeing the story as unoriginal, see it as the best parts of dozens of other stories. I can&#039;t argue that with that group of people. It is truly their taste and it is no one&#039;s place to tell them they are wrong.

However, these people are few and far between and there is not nearly enough of them to turn it into the billion-dollar monster it has become.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real big question, however, is even though these girls/women love the bad boy, is it the book that catalyzes the unhealthy relationships or is it inborn. Does the book originate their mentality, or does it relate to it?</p>
<p>The way I figure it, it comes both ways. For those that are molded by something such as a fictional story so easily, then they are just going to drop the mentality for the next shiny bauble that comes along. For those that relate to the story, they would have committed themselves to dangerous lives with or without the book.</p>
<p>Poor authorship and unoriginality aside, the reason I can not stand Twilight isn&#8217;t because of what it is, but what it has become. I absolutely HATE it when an intellectual property becomes popular by preying on weakness. This is exactly what has happened with Twilight. The two groups of people mentioned above have propelled mediocrity into fortune.</p>
<p>Granted, there are a few people that are fans for honest reasons. They actually enjoy the way the books are written, and instead of seeing the story as unoriginal, see it as the best parts of dozens of other stories. I can&#8217;t argue that with that group of people. It is truly their taste and it is no one&#8217;s place to tell them they are wrong.</p>
<p>However, these people are few and far between and there is not nearly enough of them to turn it into the billion-dollar monster it has become.<br />
.-= John A.´s last blog ..<a href="http://fx2k.net/index/2009/07/31/pride-and-prejudice-and-comics-oh-my/">Pride and Prejudice and Comics</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Mira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a native English speaker, and I do my best to double check all my posts and comments. I guess &quot;Twilight&quot; made me mad enough to forget about it. 

Can&#039;t wait for new anti-Twilight posts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a native English speaker, and I do my best to double check all my posts and comments. I guess &#8220;Twilight&#8221; made me mad enough to forget about it. </p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait for new anti-Twilight posts!</p>
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		<title>By: Professor Beej</title>
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		<dc:creator>Professor Beej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree totally.  Actually,  my next installment for Anti-Twilight Week (which is two more posts--one from me and one from my wife) deals with Meyer&#039;s inability to write and worldbuild.  She succeeds in making Edward a frightening character, like you said, through no real talent of her own;  she just makes him everything men //shouldn&#039;t// be.

And also, thank you for the &quot;the Bella&quot; comment.  My wife and I were driving this morning and she was reading your comment to me from my iPhone when we ran across that and giggled because you took such care to elaborate eloquently on your points and missed backspacing over a &quot;the&quot; at one point.  Then the phone buzzed again with your follow up comment, and I died laughing.  It was so funny that it was like you were responding to our very thoughts.  You made my morning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree totally.  Actually,  my next installment for Anti-Twilight Week (which is two more posts&#8211;one from me and one from my wife) deals with Meyer&#8217;s inability to write and worldbuild.  She succeeds in making Edward a frightening character, like you said, through no real talent of her own;  she just makes him everything men //shouldn&#8217;t// be.</p>
<p>And also, thank you for the &#8220;the Bella&#8221; comment.  My wife and I were driving this morning and she was reading your comment to me from my iPhone when we ran across that and giggled because you took such care to elaborate eloquently on your points and missed backspacing over a &#8220;the&#8221; at one point.  Then the phone buzzed again with your follow up comment, and I died laughing.  It was so funny that it was like you were responding to our very thoughts.  You made my morning.</p>
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		<title>By: Mira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! Ok, I wrote this in about one minute, and I got angry while writing it... I apologize for all the grammar mistakes and the like (&quot;The Bella&quot; and similar). Though, I must admit, she is one of a kind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! Ok, I wrote this in about one minute, and I got angry while writing it&#8230; I apologize for all the grammar mistakes and the like (&#8220;The Bella&#8221; and similar). Though, I must admit, she is one of a kind.</p>
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		<title>By: Mira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, I must say the worst thing about Twilight for ME wasn&#039;t Edward, but author&#039;s obviously twisted sense of morality, honesty, psychology, etc. That&#039;s why everything she praises as good is basically, bizarre and not worth anyone&#039;s attention.

When it comes to Edward, it means a lot. First of all, no matter what people say, Meyer did make him scary.  Scary in a creepy, controlling kind of way, because, after all, he IS a stalker and an abusive boyfriend. 

I understand Meyer didn&#039;t want to make him that way. I get it. He was supposed to be mysterious, handsome, rebellious- but also honest, loving  and wonderful in any aspect (in other words, an ideal man for many females out there). But Meyer lacks any writing talent whatsoever, and she failed. 

The Edward she wanted to create is still a cutout, a Gary Stu and not a realistic character in any case.  It&#039;s not fun to read about those &quot;perfect&quot; characters. But at least he would not be as creepy as he is now.

The problem is, all those little &quot;princesses&quot; that adore the story are young enough to remember the fairytales about prince charming, but also old enough to have wild hormones. All they want in a book is a hot main character,  and in their brains, it automatically means he&#039;s a nice, loving person. Plus, the Bella is so void of any personality whatsoever that any girl can easily step into her shoes. And voila! Edward becomes a perfect human being and an ideal man of her dreams.

I don&#039;t hate those girls. After all, I was 13 once. But I still blame the author. While I&#039;m not one of those people who think writers must educate kids and force messages in their books, I do think the whole idea behind &quot;Twilight&quot; is one huge mess and FAIL opportunity to tell a (potentially good) story.  

It does look like the author herself is still 13, with all those unrealistic ideas about love, sex, marriage, life, or any other thing for that matter. Which is a bad, bad thing. The other bad thing is her personal twisted logic and bizarre ideas she has about life.

And the last, but certainly not the least:  that woman can&#039;t write. And I don&#039;t mean in a way she can&#039;t write good.  She can&#039;t write AT ALL; she can&#039;t present her thoughts in a coherent way. Not to mention she lacks true imagination or talent for storytelling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, I must say the worst thing about Twilight for ME wasn&#8217;t Edward, but author&#8217;s obviously twisted sense of morality, honesty, psychology, etc. That&#8217;s why everything she praises as good is basically, bizarre and not worth anyone&#8217;s attention.</p>
<p>When it comes to Edward, it means a lot. First of all, no matter what people say, Meyer did make him scary.  Scary in a creepy, controlling kind of way, because, after all, he IS a stalker and an abusive boyfriend. </p>
<p>I understand Meyer didn&#8217;t want to make him that way. I get it. He was supposed to be mysterious, handsome, rebellious- but also honest, loving  and wonderful in any aspect (in other words, an ideal man for many females out there). But Meyer lacks any writing talent whatsoever, and she failed. </p>
<p>The Edward she wanted to create is still a cutout, a Gary Stu and not a realistic character in any case.  It&#8217;s not fun to read about those &#8220;perfect&#8221; characters. But at least he would not be as creepy as he is now.</p>
<p>The problem is, all those little &#8220;princesses&#8221; that adore the story are young enough to remember the fairytales about prince charming, but also old enough to have wild hormones. All they want in a book is a hot main character,  and in their brains, it automatically means he&#8217;s a nice, loving person. Plus, the Bella is so void of any personality whatsoever that any girl can easily step into her shoes. And voila! Edward becomes a perfect human being and an ideal man of her dreams.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t hate those girls. After all, I was 13 once. But I still blame the author. While I&#8217;m not one of those people who think writers must educate kids and force messages in their books, I do think the whole idea behind &#8220;Twilight&#8221; is one huge mess and FAIL opportunity to tell a (potentially good) story.  </p>
<p>It does look like the author herself is still 13, with all those unrealistic ideas about love, sex, marriage, life, or any other thing for that matter. Which is a bad, bad thing. The other bad thing is her personal twisted logic and bizarre ideas she has about life.</p>
<p>And the last, but certainly not the least:  that woman can&#8217;t write. And I don&#8217;t mean in a way she can&#8217;t write good.  She can&#8217;t write AT ALL; she can&#8217;t present her thoughts in a coherent way. Not to mention she lacks true imagination or talent for storytelling.</p>
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		<title>By: We Fly Spitfires</title>
		<link>http://www.professorbeej.com/2009/11/anti-edward-cullen-a-treatise.html/comment-page-1#comment-1684</link>
		<dc:creator>We Fly Spitfires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Edward uses magic to seduce them. Now that would make for an interesting twist.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Edward uses magic to seduce them. Now that would make for an interesting twist.<br />
.-= We Fly Spitfires´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/WeFlySpitfires/~3/gidjVdjOeg0/">The RMT Industry &#8211; What I’ve Learnt</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Today&#8217;s the day. &#171; Dazzle Me This, Mr. Vampire</title>
		<link>http://www.professorbeej.com/2009/11/anti-edward-cullen-a-treatise.html/comment-page-1#comment-1680</link>
		<dc:creator>Today&#8217;s the day. &#171; Dazzle Me This, Mr. Vampire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about how Edward Cullen is a terrible boyfriend. To read it (and maybe leave some comments?), go here. We&#8217;ll eventually post this anti-Edward treatise on our own blog, but for now you can go over [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about how Edward Cullen is a terrible boyfriend. To read it (and maybe leave some comments?), go here. We&#8217;ll eventually post this anti-Edward treatise on our own blog, but for now you can go over [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dazzle Me This, Mr. Vampire</title>
		<link>http://www.professorbeej.com/2009/11/anti-edward-cullen-a-treatise.html/comment-page-1#comment-1678</link>
		<dc:creator>Dazzle Me This, Mr. Vampire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] out our contribution to @professorbeej &#039;s Anti-Twilight Week: http://www.professorbeej.com/2009/11/anti-edward-cullen-a-treatise.html [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] out our contribution to @professorbeej &#39;s Anti-Twilight Week: <a href="http://www.professorbeej.com/2009/11/anti-edward-cullen-a-treatise.html">http://www.professorbeej.com/2009/11/anti-edward-cullen-a-treatise.html</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Professor Beej</title>
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		<dc:creator>Professor Beej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the &quot;bad boy&quot; image they dig.  Some people go through a developmental stage where settling down seems the absolute wrong thing to do, and because of that, characters like Edward and Mr. Darcy appeal to the rebel inside.  What&#039;s worse, though, is when such fantasies become reality and women and men enter into abusive relationships because these kinds of books and movies color their perceptions of normalcy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the &#8220;bad boy&#8221; image they dig.  Some people go through a developmental stage where settling down seems the absolute wrong thing to do, and because of that, characters like Edward and Mr. Darcy appeal to the rebel inside.  What&#8217;s worse, though, is when such fantasies become reality and women and men enter into abusive relationships because these kinds of books and movies color their perceptions of normalcy.</p>
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		<title>By: Longasc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Longasc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also wonder why young girls seem to like the guy for some odd reason. I am pretty sure if I any guy would behave like Edward, they would turn him down within minutes. If they would even bother to talk to a strange paleface at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also wonder why young girls seem to like the guy for some odd reason. I am pretty sure if I any guy would behave like Edward, they would turn him down within minutes. If they would even bother to talk to a strange paleface at all.</p>
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