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	<title>Comments on: Say No to the Burrito, College Kids!</title>
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		<title>By: Professor Beej</title>
		<link>http://www.professorbeej.com/2009/10/say-no-to-the-burrito-college-kids.html/comment-page-1#comment-528</link>
		<dc:creator>Professor Beej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, it&#039;s about moderation.  Almost every professor I know about gives roughly 3 absences a semester to do with as you choose.  If you take those when you&#039;re sick, great.  If you take those for lunch breaks, whatever.  It&#039;s when those arbitrary numbers the professors set are being ignored that it becomes a problem.  Or if a professor doesn&#039;t have an attendance policy, it can really get iffy.

It&#039;s up to you as a student to determine how much time you &quot;need&quot; to slack and still maintain the level of scholarship you want.  I don&#039;t expect any of my students to study 9-5, nowhere close.  However, I do expect them to put the effort that is required in the class to pass.  

Even in an 18+ hour semester, there is a great deal of free time between classes and a job a person might have.  It&#039;s up to that student to determine whether or not it&#039;s worth it to read that book, play that game, or study for that test.  That&#039;s where the awakening comes in.  When you&#039;re able to determine what&#039;s best at any given time, rather than simply what you want.  That was the lesson I had to learn the hard way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, it&#8217;s about moderation.  Almost every professor I know about gives roughly 3 absences a semester to do with as you choose.  If you take those when you&#8217;re sick, great.  If you take those for lunch breaks, whatever.  It&#8217;s when those arbitrary numbers the professors set are being ignored that it becomes a problem.  Or if a professor doesn&#8217;t have an attendance policy, it can really get iffy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s up to you as a student to determine how much time you &#8220;need&#8221; to slack and still maintain the level of scholarship you want.  I don&#8217;t expect any of my students to study 9-5, nowhere close.  However, I do expect them to put the effort that is required in the class to pass.  </p>
<p>Even in an 18+ hour semester, there is a great deal of free time between classes and a job a person might have.  It&#8217;s up to that student to determine whether or not it&#8217;s worth it to read that book, play that game, or study for that test.  That&#8217;s where the awakening comes in.  When you&#8217;re able to determine what&#8217;s best at any given time, rather than simply what you want.  That was the lesson I had to learn the hard way.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine</title>
		<link>http://www.professorbeej.com/2009/10/say-no-to-the-burrito-college-kids.html/comment-page-1#comment-527</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I appreciate the wisdom in telling student about time management, I always wonder: When is the time when I am SUPPOSED to slack off and find myself? 
What you told your students there (bar the burrito part I guess, but the idea in itself) is exactly what everyone&#039;s been told since we started school. You need to do well in primary school to be able to cope with grading in secondary, and highschool is all about prepping for university/college. When that finally hits, it&#039;s apparently only a stepping stone to a real career. And after that: Well you are apparently then a grownup and should take responsibility. You need to work hard to get a promotion so you can work and earn more etc. 

While that might be true, I do think we should allow ourselves some time to simply grow. Managing your time well is essential to completing studies well, and moreso: a successful academic life, but so is finding curiosity aboout life. Finding love, reading that book you always wanted to, having an amazing movie experience or stay up all night playing a game that just blows your mind. Each and every of those points might be just as pivital to a academic career as working between 9 and 5 on that curriculum. 

Preparing yourself for an academic career is also about awakening the wish to investigate, debate and the passion for finding answers. Not everyone will get that between 9 and 5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I appreciate the wisdom in telling student about time management, I always wonder: When is the time when I am SUPPOSED to slack off and find myself?<br />
What you told your students there (bar the burrito part I guess, but the idea in itself) is exactly what everyone&#8217;s been told since we started school. You need to do well in primary school to be able to cope with grading in secondary, and highschool is all about prepping for university/college. When that finally hits, it&#8217;s apparently only a stepping stone to a real career. And after that: Well you are apparently then a grownup and should take responsibility. You need to work hard to get a promotion so you can work and earn more etc. </p>
<p>While that might be true, I do think we should allow ourselves some time to simply grow. Managing your time well is essential to completing studies well, and moreso: a successful academic life, but so is finding curiosity aboout life. Finding love, reading that book you always wanted to, having an amazing movie experience or stay up all night playing a game that just blows your mind. Each and every of those points might be just as pivital to a academic career as working between 9 and 5 on that curriculum. </p>
<p>Preparing yourself for an academic career is also about awakening the wish to investigate, debate and the passion for finding answers. Not everyone will get that between 9 and 5.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the key is moderation and balance.  In college, it&#039;s great to, every once in a while, decide on a whim to have lunch with your friends instead of going to class.  The problem comes when you completely prioritize lunches over class and start skipping so much that it affects your GPA and the quality of your education.

It&#039;s tough, though.  When I first started college, my group of friends had a tradition of going out every Friday night, going to lunch together in whatever combinations our schedules allowed, and occasionally having other spontaneous adventures.  But after a couple of years, they got where they started wanting to hang out 4 or 5 nights a week, which was more than I could manage with my school work, and to be honest, was more than I really wanted to hang out with them (I&#039;ve always required time to myself to function.)   When I started saying no when they called, I got labeled as anti-social.  

It really depends on the person and what the right balance is for her or him.  But I absolutely think you&#039;re right in advising students to not skip class regularly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the key is moderation and balance.  In college, it&#8217;s great to, every once in a while, decide on a whim to have lunch with your friends instead of going to class.  The problem comes when you completely prioritize lunches over class and start skipping so much that it affects your GPA and the quality of your education.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s tough, though.  When I first started college, my group of friends had a tradition of going out every Friday night, going to lunch together in whatever combinations our schedules allowed, and occasionally having other spontaneous adventures.  But after a couple of years, they got where they started wanting to hang out 4 or 5 nights a week, which was more than I could manage with my school work, and to be honest, was more than I really wanted to hang out with them (I&#8217;ve always required time to myself to function.)   When I started saying no when they called, I got labeled as anti-social.  </p>
<p>It really depends on the person and what the right balance is for her or him.  But I absolutely think you&#8217;re right in advising students to not skip class regularly.</p>
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		<title>By: Professor Beej</title>
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		<dc:creator>Professor Beej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I love Dollhouse and think it&#039;s phenomenal, I&#039;ve yet to warm  up fully to Eliza Dushku as Echo.  I don&#039;t feel she has the acting range of someone like Dichen Lachman or Enver Gjokaj.  I accept it, though, because she&#039;s grown on me more than she did in S1, and we wouldn&#039;t even have Dollhouse if Fox hadn&#039;t signed a contract to give her a show and she approached Whedon about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I love Dollhouse and think it&#8217;s phenomenal, I&#8217;ve yet to warm  up fully to Eliza Dushku as Echo.  I don&#8217;t feel she has the acting range of someone like Dichen Lachman or Enver Gjokaj.  I accept it, though, because she&#8217;s grown on me more than she did in S1, and we wouldn&#8217;t even have Dollhouse if Fox hadn&#8217;t signed a contract to give her a show and she approached Whedon about it.</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
		<link>http://www.professorbeej.com/2009/10/say-no-to-the-burrito-college-kids.html/comment-page-1#comment-473</link>
		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You misunderstand me, Robert.  I really think she&#039;s phenomenal, and transcendent.  What makes you think of an insult?
.-= jane´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://janeschair.wordpress.com/2009/10/13/belle-chose-belle-chose/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Belle Chose Belle Chose&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You misunderstand me, Robert.  I really think she&#8217;s phenomenal, and transcendent.  What makes you think of an insult?<br />
.-= jane´s last blog ..<a href="http://janeschair.wordpress.com/2009/10/13/belle-chose-belle-chose/">Belle Chose Belle Chose</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.professorbeej.com/2009/10/say-no-to-the-burrito-college-kids.html/comment-page-1#comment-471</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit that discussing the best course of action with hindsight is a little...circular.  What everyone seems to be saying is that everything you do can have a positive outcome depending on your perspective and what you&#039;re willing to &#039;see&#039;.  I&#039;m not sure if there&#039;s a right or wrong here.  

My only comment is to keep doing what makes you happy Beej, and you really haven&#039;t made any mistakes, even if you feel uncertain at some points, there&#039;s nothing wrong with that either.  

jane, let&#039;s not be overzealous in our  backhanded insults here.
.-= Robert´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.examiner.com/x-5631-Prime-Time-TV-Examiner~y2009m10d13-The-Big-Bang-Theory-The-Pirate-Solution-experiments-with-new-dynamics?cid=exrss-Prime-Time-TV-Examiner&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Big Bang Theory &#039;The Pirate Solution&#039; experiments with new dynamics&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit that discussing the best course of action with hindsight is a little&#8230;circular.  What everyone seems to be saying is that everything you do can have a positive outcome depending on your perspective and what you&#8217;re willing to &#8216;see&#8217;.  I&#8217;m not sure if there&#8217;s a right or wrong here.  </p>
<p>My only comment is to keep doing what makes you happy Beej, and you really haven&#8217;t made any mistakes, even if you feel uncertain at some points, there&#8217;s nothing wrong with that either.  </p>
<p>jane, let&#8217;s not be overzealous in our  backhanded insults here.<br />
.-= Robert´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-5631-Prime-Time-TV-Examiner~y2009m10d13-The-Big-Bang-Theory-The-Pirate-Solution-experiments-with-new-dynamics?cid=exrss-Prime-Time-TV-Examiner">The Big Bang Theory &#8216;The Pirate Solution&#8217; experiments with new dynamics</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s.  just saw your twitter:  couldn&#039;t disagree more.  dushku is becoming transcendent in her performances.  she was *made* for this role, perfectly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s.  just saw your twitter:  couldn&#8217;t disagree more.  dushku is becoming transcendent in her performances.  she was *made* for this role, perfectly.</p>
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		<title>By: Professor Beej</title>
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		<dc:creator>Professor Beej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I learned that soon in grad school, Jane.  I had an epiphany where I realized that my lack of trying would hurt me in the future because I was going to do that professionally.  I could skirt by and get passable grades, but I would actually know nothing about the material.  That&#039;s when I really hit the books and started giving a damn about my education.

I just regret that I didn&#039;t do it earlier because now my GPA and credentials are not at the level they should be.  My CV will make up for that in a couple of years, but there will always be that embarrassment of not having a 4.0 in my major when it would have taken so little effort on my part to actually maintain.

I did learn a lesson, and in a way, I am glad--like you say--that I had those experiences to learn from in the first place.  I was lucky because I was pretty social in high school and never fell behind the curve as so many with my interests and personality-type do (INFJ/P, baby! [my tests never come back solid on which I am]).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I learned that soon in grad school, Jane.  I had an epiphany where I realized that my lack of trying would hurt me in the future because I was going to do that professionally.  I could skirt by and get passable grades, but I would actually know nothing about the material.  That&#8217;s when I really hit the books and started giving a damn about my education.</p>
<p>I just regret that I didn&#8217;t do it earlier because now my GPA and credentials are not at the level they should be.  My CV will make up for that in a couple of years, but there will always be that embarrassment of not having a 4.0 in my major when it would have taken so little effort on my part to actually maintain.</p>
<p>I did learn a lesson, and in a way, I am glad&#8211;like you say&#8211;that I had those experiences to learn from in the first place.  I was lucky because I was pretty social in high school and never fell behind the curve as so many with my interests and personality-type do (INFJ/P, baby! [my tests never come back solid on which I am]).</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once you get further down the road, Beej, you&#039;ll realize that it&#039;s not the As or GPA that you missed out on, but the experience of learning those materials.  

And who knows, you might have made the *best* choice by choosing the burrito, because in *those* experiences you learned a lot more about people and socializing than you would have from any books.  And when it comes to making it in the world of grown-ups, that&#039;s the most valuable learning out there.  All of us depend on each other, so the arts of interaction are crucial to develop.  Especially among geeks who fall behind this curve in high school.

You also learned some independence, what it means to buck authority and chart your own course... and come to think of it, you learned that you might not always know best.  But would you have really learned that lesson without first-hand experience?  I think not.  

You didn&#039;t make a mistake, Beej, except in thinking that you made a mistake.
.-= jane´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://janeschair.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/belle-chose-the-rabbit-hole/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Belle Chose the Rabbit Hole&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once you get further down the road, Beej, you&#8217;ll realize that it&#8217;s not the As or GPA that you missed out on, but the experience of learning those materials.  </p>
<p>And who knows, you might have made the *best* choice by choosing the burrito, because in *those* experiences you learned a lot more about people and socializing than you would have from any books.  And when it comes to making it in the world of grown-ups, that&#8217;s the most valuable learning out there.  All of us depend on each other, so the arts of interaction are crucial to develop.  Especially among geeks who fall behind this curve in high school.</p>
<p>You also learned some independence, what it means to buck authority and chart your own course&#8230; and come to think of it, you learned that you might not always know best.  But would you have really learned that lesson without first-hand experience?  I think not.  </p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t make a mistake, Beej, except in thinking that you made a mistake.<br />
.-= jane´s last blog ..<a href="http://janeschair.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/belle-chose-the-rabbit-hole/">Belle Chose the Rabbit Hole</a> =-.</p>
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