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	<title>Comments on: Saw VI &#8211; Sixth Time&#8217;s a Charm?</title>
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		<title>By: Professor Beej</title>
		<link>http://www.professorbeej.com/2009/10/saw-vi-sixth-times-a-charm.html/comment-page-1#comment-598</link>
		<dc:creator>Professor Beej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I don&#039;t like vampires, I love it when an obscure property blatantly does something better than the mainstream one.  I thought &quot;Equilibrium&quot; did both &quot;V for Vendetta&quot; and &quot;The Matrix&quot; better than either mainstream film did.  I loved both of the big names, but I thought the issues were dealt with better in &quot;Equilibrium&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I don&#8217;t like vampires, I love it when an obscure property blatantly does something better than the mainstream one.  I thought &#8220;Equilibrium&#8221; did both &#8220;V for Vendetta&#8221; and &#8220;The Matrix&#8221; better than either mainstream film did.  I loved both of the big names, but I thought the issues were dealt with better in &#8220;Equilibrium&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: nugget</title>
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		<dc:creator>nugget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 04:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try &quot;Let the Right One In&quot; (Swedish) too. Very neat vampire-tween film. Or as one reviewer succinctly said, &quot;Everything Twilight wanted to be - and wasn&#039;t.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try &#8220;Let the Right One In&#8221; (Swedish) too. Very neat vampire-tween film. Or as one reviewer succinctly said, &#8220;Everything Twilight wanted to be &#8211; and wasn&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Orphanage is one of those rare gems that is suspenseful, scary at times (depends on your caliber of course) and a really, really good story and it doesn&#039;t have any gore.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Orphanage is one of those rare gems that is suspenseful, scary at times (depends on your caliber of course) and a really, really good story and it doesn&#8217;t have any gore.<br />
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		<title>By: Professor Beej</title>
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		<dc:creator>Professor Beej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah.  Big horror fan.  Love love love it.  I&#039;m even thinking about trying to propose a Modern Horror: Poe, Lovecraft, and King class to the committee sometime this year and see if they let me teach it. 

I *still* need to see The Orphanage.  I keep meaning to, but never have a chance.  I adored &quot;Pan&#039;s Labyrinth,&quot; so I figure that it has to be at least that good.  Plus it&#039;s full-out horror, so that will make me love it even more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah.  Big horror fan.  Love love love it.  I&#8217;m even thinking about trying to propose a Modern Horror: Poe, Lovecraft, and King class to the committee sometime this year and see if they let me teach it. </p>
<p>I *still* need to see The Orphanage.  I keep meaning to, but never have a chance.  I adored &#8220;Pan&#8217;s Labyrinth,&#8221; so I figure that it has to be at least that good.  Plus it&#8217;s full-out horror, so that will make me love it even more.</p>
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		<title>By: Professor Beej</title>
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		<dc:creator>Professor Beej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See the first one at least, Gordon.  I really suggest that.  The second one&#039;s definitely worth watching if you like that.

As far as it being gratuitous violence, I disagree.  At least in the first couple.  There&#039;s more at play than simply killing people in the movies.  The whole premise is that the victims have a clearly outlined way of escape, and they have to make the choice as to whether or not it&#039;s worth doing or dying.   I see that as making the viewers think by making them empathetic to the Everyman characters instead of gratuitously slaughtering strangers.  And every--or almost every--death in the &quot;Saw&quot; films makes up part of a greater narrative, making it more than just blood and gore.

&quot;Hostel,&quot; by design, was gratuitous violence, and it is nowhere near as high quality as the first &quot;Saw.&quot;  The second &quot;Hostel&quot; was one of the worst movies I&#039;ve ever seen, cashing in entirely on the gore factor of the first and providing no narrative or moral qualms for the audience to ponder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See the first one at least, Gordon.  I really suggest that.  The second one&#8217;s definitely worth watching if you like that.</p>
<p>As far as it being gratuitous violence, I disagree.  At least in the first couple.  There&#8217;s more at play than simply killing people in the movies.  The whole premise is that the victims have a clearly outlined way of escape, and they have to make the choice as to whether or not it&#8217;s worth doing or dying.   I see that as making the viewers think by making them empathetic to the Everyman characters instead of gratuitously slaughtering strangers.  And every&#8211;or almost every&#8211;death in the &#8220;Saw&#8221; films makes up part of a greater narrative, making it more than just blood and gore.</p>
<p>&#8220;Hostel,&#8221; by design, was gratuitous violence, and it is nowhere near as high quality as the first &#8220;Saw.&#8221;  The second &#8220;Hostel&#8221; was one of the worst movies I&#8217;ve ever seen, cashing in entirely on the gore factor of the first and providing no narrative or moral qualms for the audience to ponder.</p>
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		<title>By: Professor Beej</title>
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		<dc:creator>Professor Beej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, the first one is the smartest.  The rest of them try, but never live quite up to it.  

I love horror movies for cheap thrills.  I&#039;m not ashamed to say that I loved &quot;My Bloody Valentine 3D.&quot;  Nothing but cheap thrills, but it was so ridiculously fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, the first one is the smartest.  The rest of them try, but never live quite up to it.  </p>
<p>I love horror movies for cheap thrills.  I&#8217;m not ashamed to say that I loved &#8220;My Bloody Valentine 3D.&#8221;  Nothing but cheap thrills, but it was so ridiculously fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had no idea you were a horror fan as well.  Go you!

For me, the first Saw is a really good story full of dread, isolation and good performances.  Let&#039;s not forget the great Michael Emerson played one of the two protagonists, although by now he&#039;s remembered for something else (Lost, cough).  

But, it just kinda went downhill from there.  I enjoyed the second one as well, but by now it&#039;s just redundant.

The same goes for the Final Destination series.  The first two were both great in their own ways, but the later ones were just garbage.  

Plus, I definitely feel the Hollywood horror industry needs a change.  Foreign horror films are far more interesting now than ever, (&quot;The Orphanage,&quot; for example) and America can&#039;t keep up with their remakes and sequels.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had no idea you were a horror fan as well.  Go you!</p>
<p>For me, the first Saw is a really good story full of dread, isolation and good performances.  Let&#8217;s not forget the great Michael Emerson played one of the two protagonists, although by now he&#8217;s remembered for something else (Lost, cough).  </p>
<p>But, it just kinda went downhill from there.  I enjoyed the second one as well, but by now it&#8217;s just redundant.</p>
<p>The same goes for the Final Destination series.  The first two were both great in their own ways, but the later ones were just garbage.  </p>
<p>Plus, I definitely feel the Hollywood horror industry needs a change.  Foreign horror films are far more interesting now than ever, (&#8220;The Orphanage,&#8221; for example) and America can&#8217;t keep up with their remakes and sequels.<br />
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		<title>By: We Fly Spitfires</title>
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		<dc:creator>We Fly Spitfires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not seen any of the Saw films and, to be honest, I don&#039;t really fancy them. They seem like gratuitous violence and harm for the sake of it which doesn&#039;t appeal to me.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not seen any of the Saw films and, to be honest, I don&#8217;t really fancy them. They seem like gratuitous violence and harm for the sake of it which doesn&#8217;t appeal to me.<br />
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		<title>By: Dickie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dickie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love horror movies, but I&#039;m much more of a fan of the suspense style or the boogyman style of movies.  Saw, and all the horror movies that have followed it&#039;s design, just don&#039;t cut it for me.   I would probably agree that they&#039;re smart (I admittedly only watched the first one), but if I wanted smart there are plenty of other styles of movie that I could look to.

I suppose I just like horror movies for cheap thrills :0
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love horror movies, but I&#8217;m much more of a fan of the suspense style or the boogyman style of movies.  Saw, and all the horror movies that have followed it&#8217;s design, just don&#8217;t cut it for me.   I would probably agree that they&#8217;re smart (I admittedly only watched the first one), but if I wanted smart there are plenty of other styles of movie that I could look to.</p>
<p>I suppose I just like horror movies for cheap thrills :0<br />
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