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		<title>By: Beej</title>
		<link>http://www.professorbeej.com/2009/08/naming-ivory-tower.html/comment-page-1#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>Beej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, guess that means storytime!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jennifer had always called me &quot;sexypants&quot; as a kind of silly inside joke.  Well, some of my students added me on Facebook, and I don&#039;t keep anything up there they shouldn&#039;t see, so I accepted.  Well, they saw where she called me &quot;sexypants&quot; and took it to the next level, and when they were among friends, I had been given the nickname &quot;Professor Sexypants&quot; around campus.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It eventually got back to me, and I laughed about it with the girl who came up with the name.  I didn&#039;t care.  If I had, I would have never accepted their friend request in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, guess that means storytime!</p>
<p>Jennifer had always called me &quot;sexypants&quot; as a kind of silly inside joke.  Well, some of my students added me on Facebook, and I don&#39;t keep anything up there they shouldn&#39;t see, so I accepted.  Well, they saw where she called me &quot;sexypants&quot; and took it to the next level, and when they were among friends, I had been given the nickname &quot;Professor Sexypants&quot; around campus.  </p>
<p>It eventually got back to me, and I laughed about it with the girl who came up with the name.  I didn&#39;t care.  If I had, I would have never accepted their friend request in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just stick with Professor Sexypants.  That should please everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just stick with Professor Sexypants.  That should please everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ferrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it comes down to what is most comfortable with you. I&#039;ve never liked the blanket decrees across all cases. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I was in college I had a professor, Dr. Harris, who was a mentor to me. I took a lot of classes from him and he helped me achieve success. I always called him Dr. Harris. I still do even though I&#039;m a graduate and we have a friendship. I, perhaps like you, was thwapted if I did not refer to someone by title. I say &quot;Yes sir and ma&#039;am&quot; even to peers. This, of course, makes them uneasy. It is just my show of respect.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That said, I don&#039;t in any way feel uncomfortable when they call me Adam or, as sad as this might sound, Ferrel. I would not &quot;correct&quot; them, so to speak. Tone means more than the word to me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you&#039;re comfortable with students calling you your first name I say you stick to it. As long as you&#039;re conscious of the dangers of favoritism you will do your best to avoid the behavior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;@Tesh I had a professor who told us not to call him Dr because &quot;He didn&#039;t have a PhP and it upset the overly sensitive doctors who did!&quot; He was awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it comes down to what is most comfortable with you. I&#39;ve never liked the blanket decrees across all cases. </p>
<p>When I was in college I had a professor, Dr. Harris, who was a mentor to me. I took a lot of classes from him and he helped me achieve success. I always called him Dr. Harris. I still do even though I&#39;m a graduate and we have a friendship. I, perhaps like you, was thwapted if I did not refer to someone by title. I say &quot;Yes sir and ma&#39;am&quot; even to peers. This, of course, makes them uneasy. It is just my show of respect.</p>
<p>That said, I don&#39;t in any way feel uncomfortable when they call me Adam or, as sad as this might sound, Ferrel. I would not &quot;correct&quot; them, so to speak. Tone means more than the word to me.</p>
<p>If you&#39;re comfortable with students calling you your first name I say you stick to it. As long as you&#39;re conscious of the dangers of favoritism you will do your best to avoid the behavior.</p>
<p>@Tesh I had a professor who told us not to call him Dr because &quot;He didn&#39;t have a PhP and it upset the overly sensitive doctors who did!&quot; He was awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: Beej</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tesh: I can only hope to be that kind of professor eventually.  I feel very much like that I am not some arbiter of knowledge, but merely some guy who wants to help some students out.  I&#039;d love for them to surpass me, do better scholarship than I do, and really hit the ground running.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I won&#039;t lie that it&#039;s hard to get 100% into that role since I am so new to the role.  I&#039;m still used to being a student, so the competitive/qualitative nature of grades determining my importance and status is still there.  It still cracks me up to see faculty run around confused during conferences.  We&#039;re the ones who are supposed to know what&#039;s going on, right?!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;@Longasc: That&#039;s actually one of the reasons German is my language of choice for foreign language studies.  I love the formal/informal use of words as well as the utterly perfect way one can say absolutely anything in German just by stringing the language together.  I love the English language; I think it&#039;s beautiful and nuanced, but I wish I were more fluent in German because I think that ideas can be more easily and eloquently expressed in German.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tesh: I can only hope to be that kind of professor eventually.  I feel very much like that I am not some arbiter of knowledge, but merely some guy who wants to help some students out.  I&#39;d love for them to surpass me, do better scholarship than I do, and really hit the ground running.  </p>
<p>I won&#39;t lie that it&#39;s hard to get 100% into that role since I am so new to the role.  I&#39;m still used to being a student, so the competitive/qualitative nature of grades determining my importance and status is still there.  It still cracks me up to see faculty run around confused during conferences.  We&#39;re the ones who are supposed to know what&#39;s going on, right?!</p>
<p>@Longasc: That&#39;s actually one of the reasons German is my language of choice for foreign language studies.  I love the formal/informal use of words as well as the utterly perfect way one can say absolutely anything in German just by stringing the language together.  I love the English language; I think it&#39;s beautiful and nuanced, but I wish I were more fluent in German because I think that ideas can be more easily and eloquently expressed in German.</p>
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		<title>By: Longasc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Longasc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know all kinds of professors, some insist of the first name, some are very formal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I personally favor the split personality approach. One was &quot;Dr. X&quot; at university, but when met outside or in a bar where he used to be, he offered us to use his first name.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am opposed to the first name approach. Not because of the good intention of the professor, but because of silly students. Give someone a finger, and they believe you are their best buddy and either treat you not respectful or demand too much from you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;German is even more difficult in regards of respect, as we have &quot;Sie&quot; and &quot;Du&quot; instead of just &quot;You&quot;. The first one is more formal and respectful, while &quot;You&quot; is something you have to &quot;offer&quot; to someone before it is not an inappropriate affront and intrusion into privacy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also think one can have a warm-hearted and good communication with someone without having to use the first name.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BTW, most german universities except those of the Bundeswehr (Army) and some private institutes leave it up to the professor to decide how he communicates with his students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know all kinds of professors, some insist of the first name, some are very formal.</p>
<p>I personally favor the split personality approach. One was &quot;Dr. X&quot; at university, but when met outside or in a bar where he used to be, he offered us to use his first name.</p>
<p>I am opposed to the first name approach. Not because of the good intention of the professor, but because of silly students. Give someone a finger, and they believe you are their best buddy and either treat you not respectful or demand too much from you.</p>
<p>German is even more difficult in regards of respect, as we have &quot;Sie&quot; and &quot;Du&quot; instead of just &quot;You&quot;. The first one is more formal and respectful, while &quot;You&quot; is something you have to &quot;offer&quot; to someone before it is not an inappropriate affront and intrusion into privacy.</p>
<p>I also think one can have a warm-hearted and good communication with someone without having to use the first name.</p>
<p>BTW, most german universities except those of the Bundeswehr (Army) and some private institutes leave it up to the professor to decide how he communicates with his students.</p>
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		<title>By: Tesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that there&#039;s a very real danger of the &quot;ivory tower&quot; mentality causing irreparable harm to both the teacher and the student.  Pride is a terrible thing, rooted in comparisons between people.  Maintaining that distance fosters pride.  Yes, a professor needs to maintain impartial integrity to foster meritocracy, but that&#039;s why they are paid professionals.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I had one professor who made it a point to note that he is a professor, not a teacher.  He professes about what he knows, and whether or not we are taught is up to whether or not we chose to learn.  Call it semantics, but it reinforced to me that he was doing his best, and that he was not placing himself on a pedestal as the ultimate arbiter of knowledge by placing the onus of learning on our shoulders as students.  I never addressed him by first name, but that&#039;s just me; he wasn&#039;t opposed to it.  He and I did share more than a few joking moments, sometimes during class when nobody else understood a clever bit of wordplay or an allusion.  (Like &quot;pontificating about the pope&quot;.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My favorite professor asked to be addressed by his first name.  He found the formality to be deleterious to what he wanted to do with his program.  He saw his job as a professor as that of a mentor, rather than a perpetual superior.  He openly admitted that his training was that of another era (his is an architectural degree, but he runs the computer animation program), and that he *wanted* us to surpass his abilities.  He spoke of generalities and industry practices, and told us to push the technology and our own abilities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s hard not to love a guy like that, who knows that he has something to offer, but who wants us to go beyond what he can teach us.  To me, that&#039;s the point of education, and to see a tenured professor embrace it so wholly has had a substantial impact on how I see the profession.  It&#039;s part of why I&#039;d love to work as a professor, actually.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And yes, I&#039;ll answer to almost anything in that role, because I would just be one guide of many, a guy who can answer a handful of questions, a guy who wants to see my students be far more than I ever could be.  It&#039;s not unlike how I see my role as a parent.  I want my children to outgrow me, to reach heights that I&#039;ve not been able to.  The fleeting pride that comes from maintaining superiority doesn&#039;t hold a candle to the joy in a job well done.  Serving is far more satisfying than being served.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that there&#39;s a very real danger of the &quot;ivory tower&quot; mentality causing irreparable harm to both the teacher and the student.  Pride is a terrible thing, rooted in comparisons between people.  Maintaining that distance fosters pride.  Yes, a professor needs to maintain impartial integrity to foster meritocracy, but that&#39;s why they are paid professionals.</p>
<p>I had one professor who made it a point to note that he is a professor, not a teacher.  He professes about what he knows, and whether or not we are taught is up to whether or not we chose to learn.  Call it semantics, but it reinforced to me that he was doing his best, and that he was not placing himself on a pedestal as the ultimate arbiter of knowledge by placing the onus of learning on our shoulders as students.  I never addressed him by first name, but that&#39;s just me; he wasn&#39;t opposed to it.  He and I did share more than a few joking moments, sometimes during class when nobody else understood a clever bit of wordplay or an allusion.  (Like &quot;pontificating about the pope&quot;.)</p>
<p>My favorite professor asked to be addressed by his first name.  He found the formality to be deleterious to what he wanted to do with his program.  He saw his job as a professor as that of a mentor, rather than a perpetual superior.  He openly admitted that his training was that of another era (his is an architectural degree, but he runs the computer animation program), and that he *wanted* us to surpass his abilities.  He spoke of generalities and industry practices, and told us to push the technology and our own abilities.</p>
<p>It&#39;s hard not to love a guy like that, who knows that he has something to offer, but who wants us to go beyond what he can teach us.  To me, that&#39;s the point of education, and to see a tenured professor embrace it so wholly has had a substantial impact on how I see the profession.  It&#39;s part of why I&#39;d love to work as a professor, actually.</p>
<p>And yes, I&#39;ll answer to almost anything in that role, because I would just be one guide of many, a guy who can answer a handful of questions, a guy who wants to see my students be far more than I ever could be.  It&#39;s not unlike how I see my role as a parent.  I want my children to outgrow me, to reach heights that I&#39;ve not been able to.  The fleeting pride that comes from maintaining superiority doesn&#39;t hold a candle to the joy in a job well done.  Serving is far more satisfying than being served.</p>
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