Comments on: Leveling through PvP Battlegrounds in World of Warcraft Patch 3.2 http://www.professorbeej.com/2009/06/leveling-through-pvp-battlegrounds-in.html Reading Pop Culture Like an English Teacher Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:35:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: jesus http://www.professorbeej.com/2009/06/leveling-through-pvp-battlegrounds-in.html/comment-page-1#comment-263 jesus Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:55:30 +0000 http://professorbeej.com/2009/06/leveling-through-pvp-battlegrounds-in-world-of-warcraft-patch-3-2.html#comment-263 I recently came accross your blog and have been reading along. I thought I would leave my first comment. I dont know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading. Nice blog. I will keep visiting this blog very often.<br /><br /><br />Margaret<br /><br /><a href="http://powerleveling.info" rel="nofollow">http://powerleveling.info</a> I recently came accross your blog and have been reading along. I thought I would leave my first comment. I dont know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading. Nice blog. I will keep visiting this blog very often.

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]]> By: Tesh http://www.professorbeej.com/2009/06/leveling-through-pvp-battlegrounds-in.html/comment-page-1#comment-69 Tesh Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:36:55 +0000 http://professorbeej.com/2009/06/leveling-through-pvp-battlegrounds-in-world-of-warcraft-patch-3-2.html#comment-69 I'd definitely recommend Guild Wars to anyone interested in MMO design and mechanics. It does enough things right and differently that it's well worth exploring, even this late in its life. (And just because it's a differently flavored MMO, it doesn't mean that it's any less of a game. As Chris over at ihaspc is fond of noting, there's little truly massive about any MMO; you can experience everything in WoW with 40 players, max, and the open warfare of WAR chugs significantly with more than a few dozen people.)<br /><br />If you have the cash to spare, it's definitely worth getting the set, at least if you have any interest in the game at all. The later expansions do things that the original GW didn't, and the ability to take a single character through all of the worlds adds to the fun. It also adds to the ability to find other people to play with.<br /><br />That said, I don't play these games for the other players, I play for the content and game mechanics. As you note, GW doesn't have the same MMO flavor that a WoW vet will recognize, though the PvP is one of the GW strong points, especially since you can jump in feet first at character creation with a level-capped character specifically for PvP. I'd definitely recommend Guild Wars to anyone interested in MMO design and mechanics. It does enough things right and differently that it's well worth exploring, even this late in its life. (And just because it's a differently flavored MMO, it doesn't mean that it's any less of a game. As Chris over at ihaspc is fond of noting, there's little truly massive about any MMO; you can experience everything in WoW with 40 players, max, and the open warfare of WAR chugs significantly with more than a few dozen people.)

If you have the cash to spare, it's definitely worth getting the set, at least if you have any interest in the game at all. The later expansions do things that the original GW didn't, and the ability to take a single character through all of the worlds adds to the fun. It also adds to the ability to find other people to play with.

That said, I don't play these games for the other players, I play for the content and game mechanics. As you note, GW doesn't have the same MMO flavor that a WoW vet will recognize, though the PvP is one of the GW strong points, especially since you can jump in feet first at character creation with a level-capped character specifically for PvP.

]]> By: Beej http://www.professorbeej.com/2009/06/leveling-through-pvp-battlegrounds-in.html/comment-page-1#comment-67 Beej Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:01:06 +0000 http://professorbeej.com/2009/06/leveling-through-pvp-battlegrounds-in-world-of-warcraft-patch-3-2.html#comment-67 Tesh, Guild Wars is one of those that I've always wanted to give a real shot, but every time I try, I can't seem to find a good community. Since everything is instanced, it doesn't ever feel like a real MMO. It was really hard for me to meet people in that game, so I gave up pretty quickly. I'd love to really have a reason to go back, especially for the PvP. You think it's worth buying the set these days?<br /><br />And Gordon, while WAR did have the problem that scenarios were much faster for XP than open RvR, there was also the fact that they were a lot more fun. Keep sieges were neat, but they were so laggy and unorganized. I wanted to be a healer, so I really just stood in the middle of a room, randomly clicked, and healed people. It didn't matter who it was. At least in scenarios, I could pick a particular tank to follow around and be his pocket healer.<br /><br />And hey, who knows, Bioware might set up TOR servers that aren't Euro/NA specific. There are a lot of people I know online who are European gamers who I'd like to play with but can't because of something (seemingly) arbitrary. The timezone difference would be a killer, though. Tesh, Guild Wars is one of those that I've always wanted to give a real shot, but every time I try, I can't seem to find a good community. Since everything is instanced, it doesn't ever feel like a real MMO. It was really hard for me to meet people in that game, so I gave up pretty quickly. I'd love to really have a reason to go back, especially for the PvP. You think it's worth buying the set these days?

And Gordon, while WAR did have the problem that scenarios were much faster for XP than open RvR, there was also the fact that they were a lot more fun. Keep sieges were neat, but they were so laggy and unorganized. I wanted to be a healer, so I really just stood in the middle of a room, randomly clicked, and healed people. It didn't matter who it was. At least in scenarios, I could pick a particular tank to follow around and be his pocket healer.

And hey, who knows, Bioware might set up TOR servers that aren't Euro/NA specific. There are a lot of people I know online who are European gamers who I'd like to play with but can't because of something (seemingly) arbitrary. The timezone difference would be a killer, though.

]]> By: We Fly Spitfires http://www.professorbeej.com/2009/06/leveling-through-pvp-battlegrounds-in.html/comment-page-1#comment-64 We Fly Spitfires Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:04:27 +0000 http://professorbeej.com/2009/06/leveling-through-pvp-battlegrounds-in-world-of-warcraft-patch-3-2.html#comment-64 I completely agree. I'm really looking forward to this change too. If I was earning exp with my Priest in BGs, he would be level 80 by now :) Sad thing is, I'm bored of the character and now I have lost a huge amount of time I've invested.<br /><br />Setting the exp lower than quests or dungeons is a very good move by Blizzard too. The problem with WAR is that scenarios killed RvR because it was a lot faster to just grind them than actually raid keeps. Another classic example of human beings taking the fastest route from A to B.<br /><br />I hope we can group together in a MMORPG one day! :) Sounds like we have prettty similar gaming styles plus you like healing and I like tanking :) Just a pity that I'm in Scotland and on different servers/timezone. I completely agree. I'm really looking forward to this change too. If I was earning exp with my Priest in BGs, he would be level 80 by now :) Sad thing is, I'm bored of the character and now I have lost a huge amount of time I've invested.

Setting the exp lower than quests or dungeons is a very good move by Blizzard too. The problem with WAR is that scenarios killed RvR because it was a lot faster to just grind them than actually raid keeps. Another classic example of human beings taking the fastest route from A to B.

I hope we can group together in a MMORPG one day! :) Sounds like we have prettty similar gaming styles plus you like healing and I like tanking :) Just a pity that I'm in Scotland and on different servers/timezone.

]]> By: Tesh http://www.professorbeej.com/2009/06/leveling-through-pvp-battlegrounds-in.html/comment-page-1#comment-62 Tesh Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:37:34 +0000 http://professorbeej.com/2009/06/leveling-through-pvp-battlegrounds-in-world-of-warcraft-patch-3-2.html#comment-62 "there is something not fun about seeing time I spend in a MMO wasted"<br /><br />I maintain that such is a subconscious (or conscious) reaction to the subscription model that means you're constantly paying to play. Guild Wars is much kinder to those who don't have a race to the level cap as a game goal, especially with a casual schedule.<br /><br />That tangential assertion aside, I agree that this is a smart move for Blizzard. I'll second the level-buff notion for PvP, too. One of WoW's biggest problems is the extremely wide power band, and PvP really works best when player skill is the determining factor, not a level or gear avantage. "there is something not fun about seeing time I spend in a MMO wasted"

I maintain that such is a subconscious (or conscious) reaction to the subscription model that means you're constantly paying to play. Guild Wars is much kinder to those who don't have a race to the level cap as a game goal, especially with a casual schedule.

That tangential assertion aside, I agree that this is a smart move for Blizzard. I'll second the level-buff notion for PvP, too. One of WoW's biggest problems is the extremely wide power band, and PvP really works best when player skill is the determining factor, not a level or gear avantage.

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